
gk_2000
08-24 01:35 AM
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
If you really want, you can make sense of the "disconnected" arguments, as they all address various points of your counter-arguments.
And again, we are unable to get enough members to fight for visa recapture or i-485 filing and you want to go about closing loopholes?
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS.
There was no way for me to know, but my "guess" is close enough, dont you think?
And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
To remind you, this platform is for what purpose? This argument is tangential, as is the loophole one. We want to focus on what? I will let the below argument pass, after saying this much. But yes, I do emphasize with you on what happened. But I also have my share of tragedies
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
So can you force everyone to take higher pay? It's a matter between private persons, isn't it? I guess it is a bigger deal for small guys, as the labor market comes into play. No sense applying it to executives
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
If you really want, you can make sense of the "disconnected" arguments, as they all address various points of your counter-arguments.
And again, we are unable to get enough members to fight for visa recapture or i-485 filing and you want to go about closing loopholes?
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS.
There was no way for me to know, but my "guess" is close enough, dont you think?
And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
To remind you, this platform is for what purpose? This argument is tangential, as is the loophole one. We want to focus on what? I will let the below argument pass, after saying this much. But yes, I do emphasize with you on what happened. But I also have my share of tragedies
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
So can you force everyone to take higher pay? It's a matter between private persons, isn't it? I guess it is a bigger deal for small guys, as the labor market comes into play. No sense applying it to executives
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
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ursosweet
07-20 01:02 PM
no. of h1b issued in last 4 years 65kX4= 260k
even if you double that (which i m sure is not the case), still it come to 500k.
so ure over estimating it.
thanks
even if you double that (which i m sure is not the case), still it come to 500k.
so ure over estimating it.
thanks
sunofeast_gc
07-23 06:15 PM
Guys, We just got the magic e-mail.!!
Card Production ordered
PD AUG 2004
RD :FEB 2005
EB3 INDIA :) :) :)
thx everyone for your help and suppport!!
Congratulation.
Card Production ordered
PD AUG 2004
RD :FEB 2005
EB3 INDIA :) :) :)
thx everyone for your help and suppport!!
Congratulation.
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snathan
05-15 10:35 AM
dear members,
please post ideas on how we can all collectively address such issues. We have to spread awareness, get attention from law makers, remove the fear instilled into minds of people, guide people in the right direction.
Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
When the USCIS is doing mistake, we need to ask for fee waiver. If they are nog giving, we should not hesitate to take them to court and make them pay for it. Even one time if we can succeed it will make all the difference.
please post ideas on how we can all collectively address such issues. We have to spread awareness, get attention from law makers, remove the fear instilled into minds of people, guide people in the right direction.
Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
When the USCIS is doing mistake, we need to ask for fee waiver. If they are nog giving, we should not hesitate to take them to court and make them pay for it. Even one time if we can succeed it will make all the difference.
more...
diptam
06-10 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=dilbert_cal]Guys/Gals - Those of you who are planning to file your 140 and/or 485 and are worried about the future consequences, please stop worrying about the bill and first of all get your 140 and/or 485 filed.
Now, when you are done with it , please help IV to ensure that the current bill has enough amendments to make our future secure.
QUOTE]
Why only guys from May 16th 2007 to Oct 2008 are selectively victimized -
My 140 is filed just on May 16th - what is my Sin ??
Now, when you are done with it , please help IV to ensure that the current bill has enough amendments to make our future secure.
QUOTE]
Why only guys from May 16th 2007 to Oct 2008 are selectively victimized -
My 140 is filed just on May 16th - what is my Sin ??
sunny1000
04-30 04:54 PM
This is the style of the officer of USCIS of America!
Some idiot gave me a red for asking for this translation...Whoever that is, please note that not all speak Hindi and I wanted to know what the poster was saying. So, go screw yourself if you don't like it.:mad::mad:
Some idiot gave me a red for asking for this translation...Whoever that is, please note that not all speak Hindi and I wanted to know what the poster was saying. So, go screw yourself if you don't like it.:mad::mad:
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ramaonline
06-01 04:02 PM
In such cases you need not worry - as the law only kicks in sometime in oct 08 - again the language is not certain until the time the president signs it - More changes are possible in the house if the senate passes it - The conference committee may again change the text
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GCwaitforever
03-31 11:08 PM
Yesterday I sent an e-mail to Secretary Chao indicating poor performance of Philadelphia Backlog Processing Center.
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gc_chahiye
12-26 06:10 PM
Filed AP on Aug 13th, havent got it yet.
filed on 13th AUg. Receipt has notice-date of sept-end. Online status says 'pending'...
filed on 13th AUg. Receipt has notice-date of sept-end. Online status says 'pending'...
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kondur_007
12-16 07:50 PM
But million dollar question is when they will apply spillover visa?
I think they will apply spillover only in the last quarter (July-sept 2010). Nothing will happen till July. And even in the last quarter, significant jump would be only in sept.
I think they will apply spillover only in the last quarter (July-sept 2010). Nothing will happen till July. And even in the last quarter, significant jump would be only in sept.
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shilpianand
08-10 05:49 PM
NSC processed our case and we mail that on june 30th , uscis recd. the same on 2-july-07
our recd. number starts from LIN 072275####
our recd. number starts from LIN 072275####
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perm
07-20 04:10 PM
Hilary and Obama said NO to Legal Immigration...
MCcain said YES...
Choice is yours..
i Will vote for his (MCcain) great great grandson when I get citizenship (and if I am alive)
MCcain said YES...
Choice is yours..
i Will vote for his (MCcain) great great grandson when I get citizenship (and if I am alive)
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wandmaker
05-24 06:13 PM
^^^^^^
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manish_jain99
09-10 04:46 PM
I won't be able to join the Rally in Washington but can contribute some money to the cause that binds us all.
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SGP
04-24 07:24 AM
SGP, It took 3-4 weeks for a co-worker in eb2 to get an approval once labor was filed(excludes Pre activities like ads etc)
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
Thanks LONGGCQUE and forgerator. For the benefit of others, I will post the time time it took to get approval as soon as I get it.
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
Thanks LONGGCQUE and forgerator. For the benefit of others, I will post the time time it took to get approval as soon as I get it.
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HV000
07-21 07:46 PM
It's A Shame That Most Of Preminant Democrats Have Voted No!!!
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inspectorfox
09-27 09:57 AM
NY WILL ISSUE DRIVER’S LICENSES REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/22/nyregion/22licenses.html
Legal immigrants carry on suffering... My NJ Drivers License expires tomorrow and my H1B extension just got approved yesterday. NJ DMV won't renew my license without the original approval notice and I may have to take the written test again once the license expires.,
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/22/nyregion/22licenses.html
Legal immigrants carry on suffering... My NJ Drivers License expires tomorrow and my H1B extension just got approved yesterday. NJ DMV won't renew my license without the original approval notice and I may have to take the written test again once the license expires.,
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chanduv23
11-17 03:07 PM
Chandu, did you get a chance to read this thread on RG's forums?
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461
so atleast we can say that there is a different opinion exists among attorney's too, than one of that RK's.
As mentioned in some of the above posts,
1. PPL mentioned successful renewal of EAD while MTR was filed.
2. PPL reported been able to continue working while 485 was in appeal due to invocation of 140 by previous employer after 180 days of 485.
So, I am sure there is something that is mis-guiding us here. As suggested above, Do you think if sending an email to CIS ombudsman as an individual would help? or can we do it under IV's banner if that is more effective? Suggestions?
desi - I am not sure how we do that but I personally think if we ask such a thing we are letting USCIS send us denial notice even though they must not send it.
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461
so atleast we can say that there is a different opinion exists among attorney's too, than one of that RK's.
As mentioned in some of the above posts,
1. PPL mentioned successful renewal of EAD while MTR was filed.
2. PPL reported been able to continue working while 485 was in appeal due to invocation of 140 by previous employer after 180 days of 485.
So, I am sure there is something that is mis-guiding us here. As suggested above, Do you think if sending an email to CIS ombudsman as an individual would help? or can we do it under IV's banner if that is more effective? Suggestions?
desi - I am not sure how we do that but I personally think if we ask such a thing we are letting USCIS send us denial notice even though they must not send it.
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susie
07-07 01:32 AM
Please, please update when you get any news.
I have a very dicey situation with my son, who is turning 21 in January 2008.
Good luck for the outcome!
Hi
Case filed end March 07 at Tampa mid district. They had 60days to respond , so by end May 07 should have heard
Just before end May 07 they asked for another 30days and as a professional curtesy my attorney agreed, so should have heard by end June 07
Just before end June the Attorney General's legal department called my attorney and asked yet again for another 30days !!! as my case paperwork with them was very thin (whatever that means) Their attorney stated on the phone they would like to resolve, again whatever that is supposed to mean
Apparently Geoff Gorsky has not replied to his own attorney ! so their attorney has asked for all and any evidence we have on CSPA case.
Today 6th July 07 I drove from Orlando to Tampa to hand deliver my case file, but my attorney has stated they will not be allowed more extra time as we will be at 120 days wait at end of July 07
The CSPA is badly written and needs leglislative fix, Myself and another member have written our own draft amendment for legislation to protect all children from aging out. This has beed passed to Dave Weldon's office and in turn passed to his legislators, so will see what happens
I will update you all as if I win my case could well assist many others if they are advised their child has aged out. If you wish to support our efforts please join www.expatsvoice.org
I have a very dicey situation with my son, who is turning 21 in January 2008.
Good luck for the outcome!
Hi
Case filed end March 07 at Tampa mid district. They had 60days to respond , so by end May 07 should have heard
Just before end May 07 they asked for another 30days and as a professional curtesy my attorney agreed, so should have heard by end June 07
Just before end June the Attorney General's legal department called my attorney and asked yet again for another 30days !!! as my case paperwork with them was very thin (whatever that means) Their attorney stated on the phone they would like to resolve, again whatever that is supposed to mean
Apparently Geoff Gorsky has not replied to his own attorney ! so their attorney has asked for all and any evidence we have on CSPA case.
Today 6th July 07 I drove from Orlando to Tampa to hand deliver my case file, but my attorney has stated they will not be allowed more extra time as we will be at 120 days wait at end of July 07
The CSPA is badly written and needs leglislative fix, Myself and another member have written our own draft amendment for legislation to protect all children from aging out. This has beed passed to Dave Weldon's office and in turn passed to his legislators, so will see what happens
I will update you all as if I win my case could well assist many others if they are advised their child has aged out. If you wish to support our efforts please join www.expatsvoice.org
ak_2006
05-15 09:46 AM
Here is the scoop.
from US Congresswoman's office, an immigration specialist spoke to their liaison at the Nebraska Service Center.
Liaison confirmed the following:
1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy)
2. I-140 revocation in Feb, 2009 ( he has not provided the day of the month, but from LUD I have it strongly pointing to 02/03/2009)
I have not told the Congresswoman's office about the I-140 revocation. Just mentioned that it might have happened as I have left the company.
3. Liaison did confirm that even after the I-140 being withdrawn I am eligible for adjustment thru AC21.
4. Liaison did agree that if the I-140 was revoked within the stipulated time given in AC21, Nebraska’s decision to deny the I-485 may have been in error. (which in my case is true)
Immigration specialist at the Congresswoman's office is going to contact the Director of NSC to review this matter with a supervisor
Unanswered questions:
1. If the Liaison can see that my I-140 is approved on 09/04/2009, why is that the adjudicating officer is responding with a denial on 09/04/2009 and subsequent denial of I-485?
2. Are they both not looking at my information with same interface?
Conclusion:
Atleast in my case it looks deliberate and intentional.
Hi ind_game,
For me, 1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy) has typo. I think your 09/04/2009 should be 2007.
Please correct.
from US Congresswoman's office, an immigration specialist spoke to their liaison at the Nebraska Service Center.
Liaison confirmed the following:
1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy)
2. I-140 revocation in Feb, 2009 ( he has not provided the day of the month, but from LUD I have it strongly pointing to 02/03/2009)
I have not told the Congresswoman's office about the I-140 revocation. Just mentioned that it might have happened as I have left the company.
3. Liaison did confirm that even after the I-140 being withdrawn I am eligible for adjustment thru AC21.
4. Liaison did agree that if the I-140 was revoked within the stipulated time given in AC21, Nebraska’s decision to deny the I-485 may have been in error. (which in my case is true)
Immigration specialist at the Congresswoman's office is going to contact the Director of NSC to review this matter with a supervisor
Unanswered questions:
1. If the Liaison can see that my I-140 is approved on 09/04/2009, why is that the adjudicating officer is responding with a denial on 09/04/2009 and subsequent denial of I-485?
2. Are they both not looking at my information with same interface?
Conclusion:
Atleast in my case it looks deliberate and intentional.
Hi ind_game,
For me, 1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy) has typo. I think your 09/04/2009 should be 2007.
Please correct.
Dhundhun
09-10 02:09 PM
EB2-I PD announcement, which is a black hole coincided with CERN Big Bang Machine. After watching History Channel (they explained details, how this CERN Colloider can create dark matters and black hole) in mid night, PD announcment turned morning bad.
USCIS is as chaotic as Big Bang and its announcements hits like Black Hole.
It was so bad news, that I could not see any further, what is happening to others.
USCIS is as chaotic as Big Bang and its announcements hits like Black Hole.
It was so bad news, that I could not see any further, what is happening to others.